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my magpie has swellings on the feet next to the tallens it

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my magpie has swellings on the feet next to the tallens it looked like mud stuck but when i looked closer it looked like lumps of skin what could i do
Submitted: 3 years ago.
Category: Bird
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Expert:  Dr. Pat replied 3 years ago.
Greetings, I am Dr. Pat. I have worked with birds for many years. I will do my best to help you. I am sorry no other expert has taken your question. We all come online at different times, I have just logged in and saw that you have not been answered. I hope I can still be of assistance. Where are you located in the UK?

Let me clarify, she is a magpie chicken and not a magpie?

How long have you had this bird? Is she a pet or part of a flock?

What have you been feeding her?

There are several very common possibilities.

They can have dermal mite infestations that cause skin swelling.

Nail bed infections can cause the skin immediately adjacent to be infected.

Fowl pox can appear as lumps.

Of course there are many, many other possibilities, so you need to take her in for hands-on exam and diagnosis. Each possibility has a different treatment protocol and it is not fair to you or her guess.

You might want to rinse the feet in warm water and very mild dish detergent, and rinse well, just in case the lumps are accumulated feces.

She must be put in an absolutely clean environment, and the best substrate is timothy grass hay rather than straw. And that needs to be changed daily.

You can examine the bird thoroughly again, including opening the mouth and having a good look in there for mucus, redness, masses or anything else unusual. You can take the temperature gently with a rectal thermometer. Anything above 105F/40C is significant. Palpate the tummy for an egg, fluid, lumps or anything else. Check all the joints for swelling, pain, and mobility.

Move the bird indoors to an aquarium, box or carrier with soft towels or hay in the bottom, no perch, and food and water in low bowls that can be reached easily. Keep her partially covered, warm and quiet.

Do not try to force food or water. You can offer warm cooked rice, pancakes, cornbread, grapes, melon, greens in addition to normal food.

I know it is expensive, but you may not have many home options, because the first thing you need a vet for is to find out what is going on. Treatment is only as good as the diagnosis. If you call around, you may find a vet to work within your means.

She needs to see an avian/poultry-experienced veterinarian ASAP for complete examination, diagnosis and appropriate treatment. Check this link or the list of vets below.

http://chickenvet.co.uk/

http://poultrykeeper.com/poultry-vets-uk/poultry-veterinary-practices-services-uk/
The expense for this is going to be a lot less than inefficient, ineffective, dangerous treatments, guesswork, and loss of the flock; not to mention possible implications to human consumption of tainted eggs. Many states/governments have poultry diagnostic labs that charge very reasonable fees to test for common diseases. In the UK, check:

http://chickenvet.co.uk/lab/index.aspx

Because you have others and presumably use the eggs, it is important to have a solid diagnosis and treatment safe for egg consumption. You can check with the closest Ag university with a poultry department, or with the closest vet school for a local referral.


If this were my patient, I would start with complete fecal analysis and direct smear, stained with Sedi-stain and unstained for multiple parasites, fungi, spirals; direct smear stained with Sedi-stain and unstained of the oral cavity; bacterial culture and sensitivity of the feces and choana. Depending on the case I might do a fungal culture. Routine blood work is necessary to rule out other issues. There are MANY DNA/RNA tests for bird diseases. Ultrasound is often more informative than radiographs and does not require anesthesia (ask your vet about this option). Generally I start them out on medications as indicated by the tests.

Pet/feed store medications and home remedies are harmful, ineffective, immuno-suppressive, and make them much worse and may interfere with the veterinarian's diagnosis and treatment. Do not use them.

The flock should be on a high quality pelleted diet with extra greens/pasturage. Overcrowding, cleanliness, proper water, environmental temperature, humidity, ventilation, photoperiod, and toxic exposures should be addressed.

A short list of avian vets:

http://www.eaavonline.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=10

http://www.theparrotsocietyuk.org/index.php/Avian_Vets/28

http://www.avianveterinaryservices.co.uk/

http://www.birdvet.co.uk/

http://alanjonesbirdvet.yolasite.com

http://www.cjhall-vets.co.uk/index.asp

www.marknelsonvet.co.uk

www.arkpetsonline.co.uk

www.riversideanimalcentre.org