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Fault Codes 2C7F and 2C2C

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Hi there, my 5 series E60 2008 45k miles throws up an occasional pair of fault codes, 2C7F and 2C2C in bank2. Usually happens within 5 minutes of cold start. Bentley etc refer to this as a 'Too Rich' mixture. It seems unlikely that the converter is at fault as the codes indicate the fault happens both before and after the converter. According to 'MechanicLee' the equiv P114C code has numerous possible causes eg., intake/fuel system; injectors; HO2S etc. What would be the most likely cause?


PS The first code should read 2C7F not 2CF7

Submitted: 3 years ago.
Category: BMW
Expert:  Steve replied 3 years ago.



the most likely cause would be a failed airflow sensor. make sure your air filter isn't clogged either.


simple rich codes do have many causes so to verify, the proper path forward will be to have the vehicle diagnosed on a scan tool that can monitor all system inputs and outputs in real time and identify what readings are out of spec.


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Customer: replied 3 years ago.

Hi Steve,

Tks for reply.

I have a Bavarian Tech scan tool which apparently emulates the BMW tool.

It can sense many of the control units while the engine is running.

Which system inputs would be relevant for this type of problem?


Tks & Regards



Expert:  Steve replied 3 years ago.
Airflow, temperature and o2.

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