Willow has become a bit aggressive towards Moth in the last year. They used to cuddle up together and sleep or groom and they do not now. The only time they ever sleep near each other is if Willow decides to sleep at the bottom of the bed during the night on my partners side, in which case Moth is already there on my side as Moth insists on sleeping on my side or legs or next to my legs (she used to sleep on my head or actually next to me on her back under he duvet)Moth is a nearly 100% house cat. If she does go outside it is for no more than 15mins at a time, she isn't very interested and she stays in the garden. Willow is going out less at the moment, but I think thats due to the weather. She will go out for a bit most days, minimum maybe an hour or two, average 5hrs. She roams around the area, in others gardens etc. My next door neighbor has in the region of 6+ cats, 3 new recently and Willow is not bothered by them, she hangs out with them and according to the neighbor is often dosing in their garden. I've seen at least two of theirs in our garden and Willow all getting along happily.Now I think about it most of Moth and Willows interactions consist of, one walks past the other and a 'batting' fight commences. Willow occasionally will batt Moth for no good reason. They go a bit mad around 3-4am, sometimes independantly but occasionally together one chasing the other. Other than that they are friendlier with the dog then they are with each other.Moth, is quite shy, she's not keen on being stroked by my daughter unless I'm calming her, which my daughter accepts and doesn't pester her. Moth prefers me to my partner but she has become a bit more tolerant of him recently and will accept fuss (I showed him what she likes) and in my absence will sit with him. Willow is independent but loves my partner, she sits on him in the evening, snuggles up under a blanket on the sofa with him etc. She doesn't really like me. She will tolerate about 1min of fuss from me on the head, longer or other places and she will bite me. If I try to move her from anywhere ie, from sitting between the gap under the worktop and the boiler she will screech at me and bite/claw me. She sometimes gets moody and gives my partner the odd nip but not like she does me. She likes our daughter, enjoys fuss from her but moves on when shes had enough. She tries to sleep at the bottom of my daughters bed from time to time and will doze on it during the day. We have a small extra heater in her room over night sometimes and she likes to peek out from under the bed next to this too.Does this give you anymore insight into their behaviour? They were quite food aggressive when we got them, would grab a mouthful from the bowl as you set it down and run off and hide, growling whilst they ate it. this calmed to just growling whilst they ate out of the bowl to now they are fine. They don't have bowls next to each other either. They are quite bad for pinching food. Off plates if your not looking. If this happens they do growl when they run off with that and eat it. No changes in the house have occurred at all like the ones you've mentioned that I can think off though. Oh and they are both spayed.
We got them at around 6 months old and they were at a local shelter. They told us they were found at a bottom of a garden being raised by a pair of foxes, I'm not sure how old they were when they were found. Under 4months I would say. They were socialized well from when we got them in my opinion. Moth loves fuss from me, she will take as much as I give and want more. She isn't often far from me when I'm in the house and I don't leave that often. I have bouts of severe depression (I have bipolar disorder) and have periods where I stay in bed. If I'm in bed so is Moth. I can't go to the toilet without her accompanying me. She used to try get in the shower when i was in it but she doesn't now as I let her get in once and she soon found she didn't like it. She will sit and wait for me to get out though. She grooms and licks me, nibbling my skin and likes to talk to me. Shes not aggressive with other people she just tends to move away. Our house is quite large, isn't very busy or noisy, my daughter is 4 and is very calm and respectful of animals. She didn't really start showing an interest in the pets until about a year ago. My 7 year old Japanese Spitz loves the cats and with rub up against them, clean in their ears etc but they don't play together (she used to when we had a young cat years ago that was run over before it was 1)I don't honestly think it will be possible for us to isolate them both separately and keeping Willow as an outdoor cat I'm not sure will work. I'm also not keen on the idea of using drug therapy for this (I've actually been on both paroxetine and fluoxetine myself) Is this option something that they would need to take long term? Is it something their insurance would cover do you think? And how expensive would it be?I'm guessing the elephant in the room is the option of re-homing one of them, which might help solve the urination/marking.
Okay, thank you very much. You've actually offered help with Moth before maybe 2 years ago regarding her re-occurring lump/crusty scabs. They haven't gone away completly, still get bouts every couple of months even with food change. Willow has flea dermatitis however (over grooms and scabs) so they both appear to be a bit sensitive!I will review what you have suggested with my partner and discuss further about medication use with our vet. Re-homing would be a last resort.Again thank you so much you've been really great, clearly explained everything in depth and given me a range of options and things to look for/consider.
Hello again, We have been giving Willow Ovarid for the past 4weeks on instruction of our vet and it has and hasn't worked. He hoped it would bring out maternal feelings and make her more affectionate.Willow hasn't been as grumpy with me. I've been persistent with giving her short sessions of fuss that I break off before she gets aggressive or bored. She has not tried to attack me when I've moved her off things and only got grumpy with me once when I attempted to remove something from her paw.She has not been any better with Moth however. On the plus side there have been no 'accidents' that I have found. I made all the target areas I discovered previous less accessible/unsuitable and have upped how often I tend to the cat litter and moved one of the litter boxes upstairs to a spare room and this is their preferred litter box.
I still catch Moth 'spraying' quite frequently daily in specific places and try to interrupt her doing this as best I can. I've also introduced new toys for added stimulation and to help rid them off excess energy that Willow may channel into aggressive/bullying behaviors. They have some shiny crinkly balls, balls with a feather, Valerian pillow (Moth took to this quite well) which are in rotation and we've been sprinkling cat nip into a cardboard box for them to roll in (Moth particularly enjoyed this and my partner reported her later yowling like a banshee at the top of the stairs with wide eyes, batting at imaginary things....she seemed to be having fun.)We will be going back to our vet next week, he did have another suggestion but didn't actually name it, just said he'd have to order it in and that it did have links to fitting.
I was not keen on Ovarid either, I just felt pressured by the vet into trying it (he didn't seem to like me making my own suggestions.) He made me aware of the increased risk of diabetes but did not mention the rest. Willow is well well under a 2kg weight and is very lithe as is Moth so I think he didn't consider diabetes from weight gain to be much of concern knowing we don't free feed as well; she is however a hunter.I will try to request fluoxetine when we go to our next appointment. We are moving house now in 2 months time and I'm hoping that as you said before this will 're-set' the territory within the house and possibly help also.
Hi, just logged on to my account for another reason and thought I would give you an update as promised.We moved house and its all fine now between both cats. They don't cuddle like they used to as older kittens still but there hasn't been any 'accidents' indoors or spraying etc.We've been moved 3 months and they even nap fairly near each other at times now or both occupy the bottom of our bed at night. Still get the odd hiss or slapping match if their night meal is running late and they get hangry (hunger induced anger!) but that's it and the dog even gets some of that when it happens.They are hunting more now as we've moved to a very small village. Moth never hunted before but shes had a shrew or two and brought us a live frog in. I actually think I've seen them hunting as a team.The biggest difference besides re-setting their territory with the move (though the house is half the size) is the lack of neighboring cats. I've seen 2 other cats in our area and that's it; we had 6 just next door at our old home!Moth had a 'romantic' encounter, I heard her wail and caught the Lothario as he exited the garden. She has since come home a week or so later cover in feces (down her back) and with a bleeding back leg and puncture wounds on her stomach though. I cleaned her up and she's fine. i can only think she got into a territorial spat with a Tom who mistook her spayed scent as masculine and decided to show her who was boss.The only side effect I'm less happy with is her lack of need for my reassurance now. I've recieved far less grooming/stalking/licking since we've moved and as she's not so anxious and insecure!Thank you again for your help.