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the operating system not found message of course means your computer is unable to see the hard drive to boot from. Sounds like you've already checked the connector on the hard drive, and as long as the power and data cables were both security fastened (check the data cable on both ends), then we know its securely connected
A couple other items to check -- make sure there aren't any CDs/DVDs in any drives, and make sure any external hard drives or flash drivers are disconnected
It could be that the operating system (windows files) have become corrupt, and therefore unbootable, or the hard drive could be failed, or in the process of failing
its a netbook - no cd/dvd, and ive even taken the battery off and back on a few times
ok, in that case, lets try one more thing here...
turn it off, take the battery out, and unplug the power adaptor
While the battery is out, and the cord unplugged, press and hold the power button on the laptop full seconds. You won’t see anything happen, but this will drain an remaining voltage from motherboard.
Once you’ve done that, plug in the AC power adaptor, leave the battery out, and press the power button normally to turn the laptop back on
and let me know if that gives you different results
thanks - tried that and it doesn't get past the F2 up, or F4 with a faint beeping spund. F4 produces only operating system not found. F2 takes me to bios but that's where I see sata is none so no hard drive (right?). I cant load the cd I was supplied because no cd drive in net book... daft! as you saw Ive tried opening the back and checking the connector of hard drive to rest of the machine was in place and it seemed fine. I thought I saw the hard drive in sata port briefly but then it went to none again... Im stumped
Ok, my next step was going to be the recovery partion (F4) -- if that also fails, then that partition is also bad -- usually indicating a bad hard drive
there are a couple steps going forward -- first, is there any data you'd like to save on on that hard drive?
pictures, files, etc.?
yes if possible
ok. Since your BIOS shows nothing in SATA, that usually means the hard drive is indeed bad -- UNLESS there is by change a IDE (PATA) hard drive.
however, sometimes, it can still be possible to recover the data from the hard drive using a USB adaptor, and reading the drive from a working computer -- of course, this will not work if the drive has failed completely.
So, those adaptors are usually $10-20 (US), so theres a bit of a gamble, you could buy it and it not work
I'm happy to send you a link to that if you'd like to see
to get your computer working again, you'll need a new hard drive, and then an external DVD-Rom drive (USB) so you can use your recovery CDs to reinstall windows on the new drive
hm. I wish there was a way to test if there was some kind if life and therefore worth trying the usb adaptor. can you suggest anything?
one of the tests is the BIOS test to see if the BIOS can actually see it -- which in your case it can't.
if your computer had a special diagnostics mode (some do) it can usually test hardware such as CPU, memory, hard drive, etc.
anything else would require testing equipment, or adaptors such as the one I described... or taking to a local tech and having someone else test it that already has the proper equipment (but that usually costs more than just buying the adaptor)
if your netbook has diagnostics, it would either show somewhere in the BIOS (F2), or give you a different keypress altogether to enter diagnostis mode
Doesn't seem to have any other info than the bios list. i'll have to ask someone. shame, was hoping to resurrect it tonight!
unfortunately a dead hard drive is very hard to resurrect!
ask around, see if anyone has either:External enclosure .5 SATA driveUSB adaptor .5" sata Drive(both of those would be to try to test your hard drive)
and the other item you likely need in the long run is a USB External DVD Drive ($15-$25 unless you can borrow one!)--that's to reinstall windows once you get a working hard drive
Sorry we won't be able to get you fixed up in a more simple/quick fashion
how would I get the machine to recognise the presence of external dvd drive?
it will see it automatically -- sometime, though, you'll need to adjust your boot settings in the BIOS to enable it to boot to that drive, or boot to that drive BEFORE booting from the hard disk
have you got a minute, because I think I have a usb dvd drive....
oh wait, no, I haven't got it loaded to the machine - someone gave it to me and ive never used it
sure. you could even boot to your recover CDs if you do, and see if that process will recognize your hard drive. (most likely it won't, since the hard drive is most likely failed)
sigh. all round fail then I guess. thanks
if you HAVE the USB-DVD drive, it should work, even if it's never been connected to the machine before, just to clarify
oh that's different. well worth a shot... here goes
Well, at least you now know what the next steps are -- thats half the battle anyway
with or without battery?
doesn't matter -- you can put the battery back in
oh crikey, now it wont even stay switched on
3rd time lucky - theres life
so - set up or recovery? theres no seeming instant recohniition of dvd
you'll want to go to setup -- and look boot devices options
and adjust so that it boots to the DVD drive first
takes a while...
and of course, you'll have to have the bootable recovery software in the drive as well
before powering up
yup, was plugged in
ok were in bios...
ok, look around options
and usually you'll be able to alter the order.......
I see numlock off, enable keypad by numlock, touch mouse enabled, internal lan enabled, pxe oprom disabled...
there should be several sections -- , or perhaps scroll down with your arrow keys
that's it within boot section
ooooh.. I understand. So nothing there to change the boot order . what are the other BIOS sections
those are the boot-up options -- how the computer should behave/operate at boot time
what is the model of your netbook, I can look
ok, left to right - sysinfo (sata, cpu, bios version o1vg) etc, advanced - cpu power saving, hyperthreading, edb, usb support, ahci mode control, fan, battery, usb, security - passwords etc, b0ot, exit - where the normal restore section is
look briefly in each one and see if any show a BOOT DEVICE or BOOT ORDER or BOOT PRIORITY
that's the boot section, with numlock etc
ok -- great. you'll want to set up the DVD drive, is possible, to be the primary or 1st boot device
here it is - boot priority order: 1 usb cd says n/a
ok -- the N/A probably means there's not a bootable CD in it -- but if its 1, then thats what we want
2 sata 3 pci 4 usb fdd 5 usb key 6 usb hdd
so change it?
usb cd is 1. need a different usb?
if USB CD is 1, thats what you want to try to boot to a recovery disk
does it show what option 2 is
oh i see - your order is perfect
looks like dead hdd
looks like we've done about all we can with what we've got.
sigh, back to the sata port none, operating system not found, can I restore the hdd - the answer seems no, I guess
if you have a working hard drive (if you replace), and the recovery CDs are the OS (not just driver CDs or Documentation CDs), then you should be able to -- once you have the drive replaced
ok, ill see how much replacement drive is. might be better to just get new laptop, maybe a refurb to save a bit of cash
perhaps. less effort ....
ok well thanks , I guess you knew from title it would be a long shot
Yup, but I always like to give it my best shot.
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ok ill save the link