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hi is the heater seeming to function ok?
Hi, yes it is..
it may be a bad transformer but I would doubt that since is heating up. transoforners do get warm and will buzz normally but it may be sigh that needs to be replaced soon
I see, I think the tank has been there about 12 years
It sounds like the unit is fine for now but if it fails, you would need to replace the noisy transformer
If it were me I would wait on this
Why would it just be coming on spontaneously
it wont hurt anything else:-)
it could last like this for years lol
some transformers become noisy but are fine
yes, I've come across 'chattering valves' before
But I still don't understand why it's coming on without me turning it on
if you rae me good service or better I will be able to schedule free follow ups in case you do need me further ;-)
it works on a tep sensor
so it will do this normally
its really not a problem
sorry Michael, I'm clearly being a bit dense...
it also has some thermal sensors built into the electronics that will cause this as well
I have been working with these for many years:-)
the immersion isn't turned on, so I wouldn't expect it to do anything, regardless of the temperature#
It's not heating the water, it's not doing anything as far as I can see
it will still activate unless the unitis cut from power
hope this helps you understand how it works
it is the nature of the bease for lack of a better word
beast sorry for the typos
Im a tech not a really a typst
no, it doesn't really....I understand how frost controls work, but that doesn't apply here
no worries micheal, I type better than i understand the techy bits
the only thing you can do is replace the module but its fine so why spend that $
yes, totally, but I still don't understand why i have a system coming on for now reason and apparently not doing anything
oops, 'no reason'
if it is working as it should the temp control could bebad
I think thats what is going on here
its easy to replacethough
it would only call for heat when that sensor tells it to'
if its calling to turn on more that you think it needs to be then replace that sensor
thats exactly what I would do
but if the temp is correct I wouldnt do that either
I'm lost here
thats because Im he plumber lol
Can we try this again
I will work with you on this but wait a few days to see if it really is a problem
my mom used to worry about her iol burner fr years but it was fine for many
like I was saying if you rate favorably, the system here will allow us to remain locked at no additional cost to you until your sure and it is perfect!
are you there Lynne?
Sorry Micheal I don't feel i have an answer. I have a system which is turning itself on and off but not doing anything. But , to my mind, it shouldn't be coming on at all. It's not on a timer, it's not turned on.
is it heating?
Not when it's doing this...
I wouldn't expect it to heat, because it's not turned on
then in that case you would need to have this checked because its not the transformer I can tell you that its likely bad elements
the fact that the transformer buzzes is not a problem, that actually means that is working
but the elements will fail over time
they arent expensive
Yes, I underdtand that, but why would it come on when I haven't switched it on
but require secila info to install thwm correctly I will help you with that too
no additional cost:-)
if your water has a lot of calcium or lime that wil caue preature wear too
it could also be the relay,
just because they click doesnt mean they are conducting
the contacts fail oftem
in that case you just need the relay board
I would do that first
if you let me know what country you are in I can tell you where to get that
if it isnt producing any heat the main this would be the relay board
Would the relay failing explain why the immersion is turning itself on for a few minutes and then turning itself off again?
yes because the system knows it isnt working so yes in that case and with most of these it would be the relay, its actually asimple system
when the board sends no heat, after a while it wil kick off until the breaker cools dowm internally
Why would it try and do this if the immersion is turned off i.e. I'm NOT trying to heat water?
the relay has a coil, thats what you hear clicking, but there are contacts to actually send power to the heating element
I'm not hearing any clicking
I still would definitely replace that board especiall if it isnt sending power even to the coil, I really dont suspect the transformer, but it may be failing as well, I cant see if or test it, either way both parts anent very expensive
if you arent a tech you can fix this easily by replacing both
I will help
It is very simple ad requires very few basic hand tools
Would you expect anything at all to be happening if the heater is turned off, it's not on at the timer, it's not swtiched on at the element
no not in that case
you need to replace the relay board and the transformer to be sure you got this right
Right then, so why is it coming on, why is there suddenly power going to the transformer.
it wil cover all bases
the relay doesnt control that
what does the relay control?
the power is allied to both the transformer and the relay board at the same time
but arent even getting a click from that board
the control relay activates the rest of the system
in this case you may be better off calling a reapair tech as Im worried you dont have the experience to do this repar
I don't definitely
But please dont rate me bad as that can cost me my job:-)
Im just trying to help you understand this system
No worries Michael , I appreciate your time
your very welcome