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Hyundai matrix 1.5 crtd cannot rev more than 2000 rpm?

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hyundai matrix 1.5 crtd cannot rev more than 2000 rpm?
Submitted: 1 year ago.
Category: Hyundai
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I have got 2 cars with same problem:
1- hyundai matrix 1.5 crtd 2005 with 77400 miles cannot rev more than 2000 rpm?
2- hyundai matrix 1.5 crtd 2006 with 41000 miles cannot rev more than 3000 rpm?
Expert:  Matt replied 1 year ago.

Hello

if you haven't already then its worth considering fitting a new fuel filter as if only slightly blocked this can lower fuel supply pressure and choke the main pump, the pump will be more sensitive to this when its cold as diesel thickens considerably with low temperatures.

also some models have an electric lift pump in the tank and its worth checking that this electric pump that feeds the main fuel pump is working correctly, it should run for a few seconds then switch off when you first turn the ignition on. If the connections to this are corroded or damaged then the pump could stop at any time. Check that its relay switches in and out and the relay contacts are clean and bright – replace the relay if in any doubt and do the same for the fuse, ideallymeasure the voltage at the pump and check its getting 12V

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Hi Matt,New filters been fitted and no any results
There is no any electric lift pump in the tank in this model of the Engine which is D4FA My Car Reg: EX55 ZPZ (Hyundai Matrix GSI CRTD 1493CC)
Expert:  Matt replied 1 year ago.

Hello

in that case I'd suggest to check the condition of the cam position sensor as this is responsible for the injection timign and if out will limit power

and check all the high pressure hoses post turbo/s for any split hoses or cracked metal pipes, also check the ends of the intercooler as its not unheard of to pop the end caps off under high boost.

If this is OK then check the small vacuum lines to the turbo and its connected control solenoid on the bulkhead, any cracks or leaks can give turbo issues

Also have a feel around with your bare hands with the engine running to see if you can feel any escaping gas under your touch. Another method is to use a soap and water solution sprayed onto any suspect areas - if there's a leak it'll bubble up with the engine running

Also check that the vacuum hose running to the dump / turbo bypass valve is intact with no leaks as if the dump valve is opening prematurely you'll be losing all your boost

If this is OK then remove the high pressure intake hose after the turbo and have a feel of the turbine wheel - there should be no play radially at all - but a little bit of axial / end to end float is normal

one other possibility is that the wastegate actuator spring has gone soft so allowing the wastegate to open prematurely - if your actuator has a threaded end you can increase the preload on it to see if this improves things otherwise these units are quite cheap compared to a new turbo so it may be worth trying a replacement

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Good Evening Matt,I did all the points you mentioned a part of the followings:
1- The cam position sensor as this is responsible for the injection timing and if out will limit power. Therefore I will check and answer you back.Best Regards
Expert:  Matt replied 1 year ago.

no problem

just get back to me on this post

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Good Evening Matt,The cam position sensor has been changed and the problem not solved still as it is!!!!Best Regards
Expert:  Matt replied 1 year ago.

Hello

I'm assuming that you don't have any helpful error codes that will point to the issue?

if not then you have fuel pressure ( has this been measured) , you have boost pressure ( has this been measured)

then it may be wise to do a compression test across all cylinders to confirm that they are all within 10-15 psi of each other

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Hi Matt,MAF sensor replaced but the alarm shows that Mass air flow to low! reset it and the code erased but after few miles Alarm Light come on!
Expert:  Matt replied 1 year ago.

Hello

OK thanks for that

to get a low MAF reading then it could be a bad vacuum leak after the airflow meter, any air dragged in here isn't 'seen' by the ECU and so not compensated for and can lean the engine out and can also allow the engine to rev up when not desired causing rough running.

As its a mechanical fault it tends not to turn on the fault light and you can sometimes hear a 'hissing' noise with the engine running.

Check the hoseclips for tightness and inspect the trunking for any cracks or splits and also all the vacuum system, the small bore pipes and fittings for cracks and missing parts.

The best way to locate a leak is to have the engine running and warm and then spray lighter gas/propane or brake cleaner around each joint in turn. If the engine rev's up you've found your leak.

Now you might think that spraying lighter gas around a hot engine isn’t wise, however theflash /ignition point of gas is about 400°C so you need a naked flame or spark to set it off and I’ve used this method for many years without incident.

Work your way through each possible joint one at a time and you should find it. I use a slightly flattened piece of brake pipe and some rubber hose from the can of lighter gas to provide a spraying 'wand' and allow a direct blast of gas into each area, especially those difficult to reach with large implements.

Expert:  Matt replied 1 year ago.

Hi

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Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Hi Matt,
So sorry I wasn't able to comeback to you and the good news that 1- hyundai matrix 1.5 crtd 2005 with 77400 miles cannot rev more than 2000 rpm? been fixed and runing perfect. I ordered Breaks clening spary and found vacuum leck around air filter. The air filter rubber seal shrinks. Ordered New One and fitted which clear the problemNow Still need your help to fix the following:
2- hyundai matrix 1.5 crtd 2006 with 41000 miles cannot rev more than 3000 rpm?
I did the same by using Breaks clening spary and no any leaks been found
I replaced Air filter and Deisel filter both new and no any results. Camshaft Sensore been replaced and no any results, Reset ECU unit by discontcting both Negative and Positive battrey terminals for 5 minutes no any results. check vaccum in EGR and works fine. Replace the fuses for ECU in fuse box and still can't Rev more than 3000 RPM.
Expert:  Matt replied 11 months ago.

Hello

Ok if you have a scan tool that can monitor the fuel pressure I'd next try that to see what the pressure is when you have this issue

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
I haven't got one! it's too expensive mate
Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Foxwell CRD700 Diesel High Pressure Common Rail Pressure Tester up to 29000 Psi£475.00
eBay item number:
151932341823
Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Hyundai Matrex Diesel High Pressure is 1700 Bar :-)
Expert:  Matt replied 11 months ago.

Hi

that tool should do it as 29000 psi is 2000bar

however I'm guessing that you'd rather not have to buy this tool ?