There are obviously two issues here. The first one
of the mothers supervised contact which, unless she is actually a danger to the
children is likely to be granted.
The second one is that of
Grandparents have no right of access or contact unless there is
some kind of existing strong relationship such as a grandparent has been a carer for some time. The courts wont grant a right automatically.
because of what you say in the second paragraph above, it would
appear that your partner, Yvonne, would stand an extremely good chance of
I understand completely and degree that there is no reason why,
based upon the history you have given, why Yvonne should have to be supervised.
In this that respect, she could easily undertake to the court, not to let the
natural mother have contact when Yvonne has contact.
From time to time, depending on who you are dealing with, social
services can either be friends or enemies. Since baby P, they seem to think
(often) that everyone who walks down the street is a risk to every child that
has ever been born! If you scold the child for doing something which it should
not have done, you are immediately child beater!!
Under these circumstances, it is unlikely that the court is going
to take much notice of the mother, who is herself only allowed supervised
The father on the other hand, who appears to have had residence
thrust upon him I would have thought would have actually been in favour of Yvonne
having as much contact as possible.
I don't know what objection, he can have.
As I said earlier, your comments that Yvonne has been the only
support the child has had and your earlier comment that initially social
services approached you, and you pass their various checks (but now they seem
to have taken a different view) and the fact that you supported, and clothed
the child, assists you, depending of course on what period that related to.
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