no it not stated in the contract but a while ago we all sign a form to say we agree but they should haveattach the form in the contract but the problem is not paying the money back its just we dont get a proof from headoffice basically they accuse us without any proof and just taking the money are breaking the law/? also i work and my own for 5 hours before the next person come along is that legal ?as the shop the raid it few years ago and at the time the panic button was not working
can you give me an answer shortly as i need to go out and then straight to work to my meeting with my area manager did u get my answer to your question /?
Under law, an employer can only make deductions from, or withhold an employee’s wages in the following circumstances:
It is not necessary for the employer to provide proof that the money is owed before they take it, but if the circumstances around this are questionable and you have evidence which would suggest you had no part to play in the money shortage, then you can raise this with the employer and challenge the deductions as being unreasonable.
However, the important issue here is whether you have this written agreement - it does not have to be part of your contract but has to be understood and signed by you.
anybody there/?i need an answer very quickly thank you
your answer is above, can you not see it?
an you see any of my posts?
yah but to have a part or no part in it it has still to be proven and show to me amd my other colleague surely? so basicaly you are telling me they dont have to show us proof to deduct the money out of our wages? that dont sound right to me if only out of curtusy we should have some information can u answer me quickly please ii think iam not explaining myself properly iam not disputing paying the money i just want proof of my mistakes and so the other emplyee? u dont accuse anyone without proof!!
No, the law does not require the employer to prove anything, although as mentioned if you have evidence that would help in showing that you were not at fault then you can bring that to the employer's attention and ask them to consider it
Has this answered your query?
Thank-you for your query,
Apologies that message before was not meant to be sent, I understand some of your responses yes, my employers have previously made us sign a form stating that mistakes could result in money being deducted from our wages however this is not the issue, what I trying to explain is that there is no way of us proofing that there has been a discrepancy, as there is nothing in writing to confirm these mistakes. If they could provide us with a detailed description of when these mistakes were made, by who, at what time, what the circumstance was? I could then review this and dispute any disprencies that I believed were incorrect against me. When I have raised this issue this has not been addressed.
I look forward to your reply
As mentioned the employer does not have to provide specific evidence before they decide to make the deductions and all that is needed is the legal right to make these deductions, which they appear to have. However, if you have evidence to show that the deductions were unfair you can raise these with the employer and if you make a claim for unlawful deduction of wages then it would be for the employer to show that they had the right to make these deductions.Whilst the policy states that you may b given mentoring, etc these are all 'maybes' and the policy does not state that this is something that is guaranteed to happen. If the employer believes it necessary to go directly for a warning because the circumstances justify it they can do so. If you do not agree with this then you have the legal right to appeal the warning