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Danny, Thanks for your response and proposal. I have attached the breakdown of the costs received from Speedwell Automation as requested with the installation of the new posts only, coming to £4080
However, I would like to be clear I am requesting you cover the complete cost to rectify all the issues with the installation at £5187.84 which includes the requirement to fit the replacement automation system due to the initial configuration not meeting health and safety standards and regulations. With regards XXXXX XXXXX electric work and discussions with Barry, none of the independent reviews highlighted any issues with the electrics, and the work carried out was not to remediate any electrical fault as far as I am aware. However if this was the case I would expect the resolution and my communication line to be direct with you, as you quoted for the electrical installation of the gates. Therefore any issues you may have with your sub contractors I would envisage you would deal with separately and independently. Please let me know how you would like to proceed..
That we didn't fit up todate underground mechanism...I believe a new law was introduced after a child was killed by some motorised gates.
This is what they are unhappy with..!!
Nothing wrong with installation of electrical installation as done by a professional, just not happy with the kit not conforming to the new legislation.
I do believe this came in after we installed the kit.
As they were friends I gave them two options on the posts, they could have either soft wood posts or iroko posts.
There was a huge difference in costs as iroko is a hard wood and a lot stronger and softwood half the price. I showed them my costs upfront and they thought that iroko were so expensive and wouldn't pay for them.
So my only option left was softwood as I wouldn't cover the costs for iroko.
The yard only advised on the brackets that hang the gates...they advised two braces one at the top and another in the middle with an additional plate I had made which was welded to the arm of the mechanism.
Nothing wrong with the installation all done to high standards just that the system we put in doesn't stop if someone walks outside the sensor area.
My electrician gave advice for having child sensors fitted but they came in quite expensive and they said will put them in on a later date.
This is the email from my electrician to Mr Evans on the subject??
just replying to your email you sent Danny regarding the electrical gate installation. A little disappointed you didn't contact me directly regarding your concerns.
Firstly you supplied the gate automation kit yourselves after declining my quote of a turnkey installation due to the costs, ironically the CAME make was one of the makes I recommended to you the other being BFT, CAME being the one you would like your existing system replaced with.
Secondly regarding the safety issue, I made you well aware of the additional sensors and a keypad for pedestrians to exit but again you declined to purchase them for your kit due to the cost at that stage. Certainly with the keypad I believe you said 'you might fit one at a later date'.
with this in mind and the fact that you provided the gate kit yourselves I cannot be responsible for the quality of the kit supplied. If you wish to purchase additional sensors and have them fitted to your existing system then I would be more than happy to do this. If you want to take out your existing system and put in a completely different one because you are not happy with your original purchase then that would have to be at your cost.
I hope this clarifies things and I look forward to your prompt response regarding this matter.
yes - when we left site I have four men on site I had a welder, carpenter, me & also the electrician.
Those gates were all accurate and got the customer too it as well. The gates were all level and welded to a professional level.
The reason the posts are bending our the weight of the gates and also we had a very warm summer and also has been very wet, causing the wood to expand and contract.
They are asking me to pay the full amount, which I think is very unfair as I wasn't involved in the electrics just supplied the contractor as I work with him all the time and we work well together.
I also think that what they are asking of £4080 for install of posts only supply and fit is very expensive. I spoke to my welder and he can supply metal posts and install for know more than £1500 so there price is extremely over the top.
in 10 years of landscaping never been asked for them.
My issue was if he didn't want to spend money on Iroko wooden posts how would I convince him to go for metal posts which would have been more money and something that I shouldn't have to pay for.
Mr Evans also had a issue that he didn't like metal work, I had to have all the brackets sprayed black and plates.
hope this helps?
I didn't quote for any posts as I just priced for the labour to hang them & install. The customer bought the gates from barlows of hermitage direct and they asked me to get prices for softwood and iroko posts to which I showed them the quote and they made a decision based on those prices.
electrics I quoted to install from gates up to garage and installation of the motors and all sensors.
all the electrician did was install what we quoted and too a high standard...Mr evans did buy additional equipment like intercom for letting people in from gates and internal intercom but that was dealt with them direct.
We told them and if we didn't gp ahead and install them, then we would not have been paid for all other work completed on site.