Hello, my name is XXXXX XXXXX it is my pleasure to assist you with your question today. Has he said what he ill take you to court for exactly?
slander and deformation of character, (although think he means defamation )in his letter
So no internal disciplinary action?
yes on suspension, and I know it will lead to dismissal, am on sick now due to all the stress, I will have to hand my notice in, as that will be better than being sacked
what exactly did you say?
i said that another member of staff, 'is probably sucking him off. It was completely 'off the cuff'
You shouldn’t worry too much about any claim for defamation. First of all, certain conditions must be met for the statement to be classified as defamatory. These are:
1. The statement has to be untrue.
2. It must directly identify the complainant.
3. It must have been published, usually communicated to at least another person.
4. It must be in a form of words, which would tend to lower the claimant in the estimation of ‘right thinking members of society generally', expose the claimant to hatred, contempt or ridicule, or cause the claimant to be shunned or avoided.
5. Its publication has caused or is likely to cause serious harm to the reputation of the claimant.
Whilst it may be easy to prove that defamation has occurred, the legal process of pursuing such a claim is extremely complex and expensive. As this goes through the High Court, he would need the professional help of specialist defamation solicitors and the costs are undoubtedly going to run into the thousands right at the outset. Also there is no legal aid available for such claims so the complainant must fund these personally. So when you hear about defamation claims being made, these are usually pursued by big corporations or celebrities who have a public image to protect.
At this stage I would treat this as a threat just because he is upset at what has happened but I don’t see it progressing to a full blown defamation claim.
he has sent me a letter telling me he is going to his solicitors on Monday, he wont be bothered about the money, he is a millionaire, I cannot afford solicitors fees, I am on my knees here, worried that I will get a big fine or go to prison
you will not go to prison for this, this is not a criminal issue, if he wins the court could award him compensation which you have to pay but if you can't then you can't, you may have to go bankrupt but this is the worst case scenario and quite a way off so don't think about it just yet as it may not get that far at all
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do i have more time?
yes, for the same issue
yes its the same issue, would you say I am better resigning than being sacked?
How long is your notice period?
well initially I handed in 4 weeks notice, but that was not accepted, my FD says that I would be best to wait til my sick period is over then, just resign with no notice
But under contract what do you have to give?
when did you try to submit it?
your employer cannot reject your resignation - once it is submitted your notice period begins to run and you can leave once it has expired. So an employer's ability to refuse to accept someone's resignation is a myth. The issue there is that whilst you are working your notice period the employer could still proceed with a disciplinary and dismiss you, which means that your reason for termination would be dismissal, even if you had initially resigned.
yes but then they would just dismiss me anyway with no pay, I thought it would be better just to resign, I am so distraught, i am considering suicide, doctor has put me on sleeping tablets and I have to go for counselling
you can still resign, I just can't promise what will happen in the meantime. You could still try and salvage this by approaching the employer and apologising, expressing remorse for youtr actions and basically asking for forgiveness. He may just be considering these actions as an immediate response, without having actually considered how it could affect you
I have already written a letter to his personal address, I have not yet posted as missed the post tonight, but he needs it by first thing Monday morning, and I know the post is rubbish here, would you suggest hand delivering? or is it not a good idea to go to his property?
At this stage probably best not to show your face at his door, but send it special delivery perhaps, or if you can also email him that would be good
yes , I have taken a photo of my letter with my phone, and saved on my desktop, so I could e-mail it to him, would you suggest I copied his solicitor in?
not unless you have been contacted by them or told he is formally represented in this matter by them, otherwise he can forward it to them if needed
i just want to draw a line under all this and get my life back
of course, I understand, there are just a few more things to do to try and resolve this so don't automatically think the worst just yet, as mentioned the employer may just be angry about what happened and going gung-ho right at the start, only to realise with time that this may not be the best approach
yes, I have already lost half a stone , I have barely eaten in a week, I only weighed 9 stone to start with
well this is one of those situations where only time will tell what happens and what we have discussed so far, with the first steps to do straight away, is the best you can do at this stage, then you must evaluate your options as things progress
Thank you for your time, i do appreciate it
You are most welcome, hope it works out for you in the end
thank you again
My pleasure, all the best
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oh yes, not paying proper attention
oh yes cant leave it til we finish the converstion
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well thank you for the excellent service
thanks, XXXXX XXXXX resolve the rating at mynend
just one more thing
I dont suppose it would look that good, a millionaire suing one of his employees
well,,,depends on who is judging, whether a lot of it goes public, etc - some people are ignorant of the potential effect it may have on them, others may take it into account, quite difficult to predict hat one
yes good point
just see what happens, take it a day at a time
can i save this conversation?
sorry I am rubbish at the internet
have just seen 'save and exit'
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great, bye for now