I was scammed in a bad way in 2011 through to 2013 - sold worthless shares and carbon credits that are apparently legitmate. There are 2 parts to this. In January 2013 when I found out that it was a scam I was contacted by Wong Brothers of China International Holdings Group who were so concerned about my problem and THEY COULD SELL MY YING PENG CARBON CREDITS (some rich China man, apparently a 10-20% shareholder of The Bank of China wants to buy ALL YING PENG CARBON CREDITS - I had to pay some tax and buy Bank of China stock from this guy who sold stock to make a loss to offset CAPITAL GAINS - min stock was 750K which I could not afford but I was given a SECURED LOAN at a cost (the dealings I had to make are too long to write here). 1. ARE CIHG SCAMMERS? - I think so as they have not answered any of my voice messages Tel +86 10-51235031. (2) Just recently when the CIHG trail went cold I am now contacted by another company DELEMONT GROUP based in Switzerland and Germany who now saying I do hold these carbon credits and stocks - they can sell both - the worthless shares will be used for offsetting CAPITAL GAINS TAX. Before any so-called deal can go through I would have to pay a deposit (a few ££ K) into a holding account to prevent me doing a trade with another company - apparently some of these shares a RESTRICTED & they will have to be de-regulated??!! 2. IS DELEMONT GROUP FOR REAL - they are quite happy for me to check them out as Dean Chapman tells me the company are members of the regulators BAFIN and FIINA. PS. I HAVE LOST MY LIFETIME SAVINGS. I contacted every police force in the world about the first scam - ongoing investigation.
For Alex Hughes
I'm at a loss - I've given a whole story here +- 400 words with Q's!!!
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I'm still puzzled. I have asked 2 questions. The reporting to the police does not apply to this situation - it was a previous scam.
China people – I thought they were my friends – they were so concerned after hearing my story about losing everything. Wong brothers (China International Holding Group) – strange as Sun (Sandy) Wong has a Canadian accent and Tao (Tony) has a London, cockney accent.
Sun (Sandy) Wong Chief Executive Officer
Director, Member Audit Committee
China International Holdings Group
Twin Towers, East Tower, B12
Beijing, 100022, PRC
Email: [email protected]
Phone: +86 10 5123 3031
Fax: +852 3006 4291 (HK Admin Office)
I have been dealing with them since a year past January 2013. Their site was there, small and not very professional but did mention how the Wong Brothers brockered all these deals. Now, I believe the website says, “under construction”.
New is Delemont Group – first person who contacted me was Simon Carter. The email address he gave me is an info @ one. So…[email protected] I found a website as follows: http://www.delemontgroup.com/ which I assume is them. When you go into the site, there is not an info@ address, but there is an enquiries @ email. The next guy who I get, calls himself Dean Chapman. [email protected] . As I said before, he is quite happy for me to check the company out to see if they are registered by BAFIN (Germany), or FIINA ( spelling?, Switzerland). I am awaiting a reply from BAFIN. I have not contacted FIINA. When I said I would fly over to meet him in Germany, he backed off and said that would be unusual and he would have to talk to his team first. This guy is good – slick and sounds super nice. Says all the shares I own are real and that I DO own these carbon credits as well. Has found 3 possible buyers – they would pay around 290,000 Euros for my shares (So called tax dodge) but I would have to put around 10% deposit into a holding account first! (so I don’t trade with another compnay once they have de-secured the shares??) I’ve told him I have no money but my new compnay (I had to liquidate the first company) has SOME funds – not a lot. He asked how much I could borrow? I said, I don’t want to go down this route again and embarrassingly told him I didn’t trust him – would need to check him out thoroughly. For all the so-called sites around the world, they have only 1 telephone number. I tried it 4 times yesterday and all I got was a message telling me all lines were busy – leave a message. The 5th time a chap with an Irish accent answered the phone – I just said I had dialled the wrong number. The number I called was: +44(0)845(NNN) NNN-NNNN This is spooky (might be a coincidence!), but I just received a call to my work mobile asking something weird. I was confused and said sorry I think you have called the wrong number – the guy on the end of the phone had the same Irish accent and sounded like the same person!! – this number (perhaps nothing at all??) is +35 XXXXXXXXXX a style="margin: 0px;border: currentColor;left: 0px;top: 0px;width: 16px;height: 16px;right: 0px;bottom: 0px;overflow: hidden;vertical-align: middle;float: none;display: inline;white-space: nowrap;" href="http://#" title="Call: +35 XXXXXXXXXX rel="nofollow" target="_blank">. Another thing I found srtange was that when Simon Carter called, he called my work mobile number – not a lot of people know that number. I asked Dean Chapman 2 days ago how did Simon Carter got my number – he said – he did not know. What I was trying to do was recoup some of the funds I lost, but perhaps CIHG and Delemont are scammers after all. I saw CIHG as a possible lifeline, but there has been no contact from them for 2 weeks. Alan
Ben. Thanks for a very detailed response in such a short time. You have confirmed my worst fears. Best regards, Alan