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My son has received a notice of intention to prosecute from

GTR as he couldn't produce... Show More
GTR as he couldn't produce a train ticket when exiting his final destination.
He stupidly lied and told them that he lost his ticket and his phone which was not true but he panicked and said this.
What actually happened was that the train had arrived when he got to the station so he didn't have time to buy a ticket and the inspector told him not to worry as he can buy a ticket on the train and let him through. A ticket inspector never came around on that journey so he couldn't buy a ticket.
Should he tell the truth now about what really happened and risk a criminal record or just stick to his story and hope for the best?
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Alex Watts : Hello my name is ***** ***** I will help you with this.
Alex Watts : He seems to accept travelling without a ticket.
Alex Watts : Why did he not get a later train please?
Alex Watts : Or arrive earlier at the station?
JACUSTOMER-h9iyr1hf- :

Hi Alex, quite simply he was being picked up the other end and the train was there and he arrived at the station too late, if the ticket inspector had told him he couldn't get on without a ticket then he would have had no choice but to wait but he told him not to worry as he could purchase a ticket on the train and let him though the barrier. He did have every intention of purchasing a ticket on the train.

Alex Watts : Why did he lie?
Alex Watts : Why didn't he just say the inspector said to get one on the train?
JACUSTOMER-h9iyr1hf- :

Yeah my sentiments exactly! He just panicked. He was stupid but now it's difficult because I want him to come clean but on the other hand if he admits it he could have a criminal record?

Alex Watts : But if he told the truth they could have got the cctv at the time to show him being let through?
JACUSTOMER-h9iyr1hf- :

Yes I know this and there is no disputing this, my question is should he now come clean and risk a record or just stick to his story and what the outcome may be?

Alex Watts :

Ok - obviously he should not lie in Court, but of course now it looks bad he changes his story

Alex Watts :

If he pleads guilty if it is a dishonesty offence he may get a record.

Alex Watts :

What he should do is now see if he can seek an out of court settlement if he has not been caught before

Alex Watts :

But if it goes to Court they simply need to show he didnt have a ticket.

Alex Watts :

If he says he lost it, he would need some evidence to show be bought one.

Alex Watts :

One would expect a card receipt or debit from bank account.

Alex Watts :

Of course he could argue he paid cash and run it that way

Alex Watts :

Can I clarify anything for you about this today please?

JACUSTOMER-h9iyr1hf- : If he continues with his story then why would he bother trying to settle out of court? How should word it?
JACUSTOMER-h9iyr1hf- : What is the likelihood of a criminal record if he admits he just panicked and fibbed even though CCTV would show him talking to the inspector at start of journey and being let through to board?
Alex Watts :

Well he can call the unit and see if they would settle out of Court. It may just be a financial penalty and then it is all over.

Alex Watts :

Well the problem is he lied.

Alex Watts :

If he genuinely was let through he should have said that

Alex Watts :

The chances are CCTV wont be there now

Alex Watts :

Can I clarify anything else for you?

JACUSTOMER-h9iyr1hf- : Yes I know and I know he regrets it. He's never been in trouble ever and at 19 to have a record over this would be devastating. If I call the unit should I admit what happened?
Alex Watts :

Well they may take a view, or they may not

Alex Watts :

There is no guarantee

JACUSTOMER-h9iyr1hf- : So as a lawyer what would you recommend?
Alex Watts :

Criminal

Alex Watts :

http://solicitors.lawsociety.org.uk/

Alex Watts :

To find one locally

JACUSTOMER-h9iyr1hf- : Ok thanks
Alex Watts :

Can I clarify anything else for you?

JACUSTOMER-h9iyr1hf- : No
Alex Watts :

Can I help with anything else tonight please?

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