Hello my name is ***** ***** I will help you with this.
For now please let me know whether you set it up as a club or partnership, or are you a sole trader?
Neither - it was not set up as a business - an informal event - if anything I would call it a club. I am a sole trader as my profession (florist). This is not related to the dance practice. If I continue with this event then I wil be including the asset and small benefit as self-employed earnings There is no formal agreement between the parties. It has been an evolvement of distribution of duties.. Thanks
So the £1,000 whose account is that kept in please?
there is never any cash - no account - we plough the money back into the practica - we just bought a sound system for £700 and lights for about £350. We regularly hold free events - and any left over cash is kept in a tin - currently the other party are holding about £200 which is for food for a free event in November and for rent in advance.
I have just been to the institute and have a copy of the original contract which states my name - and i must give 1 month notice and also cannot sublet. So. I cannot transfer to them even if I wanted
Ok -so who brought the equipment?
the other party used their personal debit card/credit ordered over the phone and then re-imbursed themselves from the cash in the tin. The other party then went by car to collect
Ok. But is it your club or do they own part of it as well?
I think that I own it as I started it and continue to advertise it and be there on a weekly basis, providing tea, biscuits etc. They are the teachers, but I use MY mailing lists to attract people. They provide music and some admin. So.... they perceive that because they spend more hours organising the event - that they are now able to veto my decisions. I want to keep the event and run it without them now.
there has been no formal ownership - because i always thought it was mine - and would not have considered to give it over to them. they came along after it was already established and filled a gap that was necessary and then took this to be they had some rights of ownership in the sense they can make decisions without me.
Ownership is the problem and that is my question to you. What constitutes ownership of this event.
More than anything I want the space and night - to which I have a contract for, with the Village Institute. Also, who owns the equipment.
Ok - but you have been running it, taking bookings etc?
Bookings are not taking - people just turn up - there maybe 0 people arriving or 40 or whatever. But usually about 20 is average. Until this summer, when I went on holiday, maybe a little before - I was responsible for the advertising which is done via facebook and an email mailing list. The email list belongs to me and another colleague (who is not involved in the practica). The parties I am in disupute with - do not have access to this. But.... recentlyl....... we both put out the publicity via fb, but the other party only occasionally. This is a weekly event. Until summer when I went on holiday, I passed over the cash from the tin to the Village Institute personally. September and August were passed to the Institute by the other party. Yesterday, I paid from my own pocket for the month of November in advance. I have the contract with the institute in my name since 2011. The other party do help run it in that they have taught there, but not always at my request..... and when I have suggested another alternative they have vetoed it. And I have gone along with what they say. Now they want the Practica to be run how they want. I do not agree. Tonight I am having a meeting with them and would appreciated your further comments soon. When we ordered the new equipment - we both together chose the items, but probably mostly it was their choice. When people become too strong with me I back off. This has been my mistake and now I want to take back my control. In a good way I hope.
OK - and what is it you want to achieve yourself as an outcome?
I want to keep control and direction of the Practica. I want the finances to be solely my responsibility. I would like them to continue to make their input as teachers - but only when I decide - at the moment they want exclusivity. I will listen to their ideas etc but I want to make the final decisions.
Well it appears that everything is in your name so I don't think you need to worry
You own the lease, you own the club
They are not named on anything, they do not have control. They are not employed. This is not a club
You are in effect a sole trader, it is all to do with you.
So you have nothing to worry about
Can I clarify anything for you about this today please?
do i need to share any assets with them. Tonight there was an ugly confrontation, whereby they tried to take the equipment and in fact I allowed them to take the sound system until we sorted it all out - but it was very confrontational, and my friend wanted to call the police........
No, you do not need to share anything. They can take the sound system, but they are only borrowing it.
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