Requirements of the community order are:-
1. Participate in Building Better Relationships programme for 31 days
2. Carry out unpaid work for 100 hours
3. Attend National Probation Service for appointments with probation officer.
You have answered 2 of my previous questions, one extremely lengthy interaction about my charge of harassment without violence and the other about my community payback conditions.
The information about this course clearly states that the ' Building Better Relationships is not suitable for men with severe mental problems.I have Bi Polar Affective Disorder Type 2 and found information which states that this is a serious mental illness, see previous email.
I am hoping that I don't have to do this course at all as it says I am not suitable as I have a serious mental illness. Can my probation officer simply remove it from my order or will I have to go back to court ?
So I will have to return to court if I am not suitable for the course ?
What could be the alternative to this Building Better Relationships course ?
Nothing has happened yet as I don't have initial interview with my probation officer until 6th Jan
I am only in this position because she lied several times in her witness statement:-
1. threatened her with knife previously
2. has threatened her previously
3. know people with guns who can hurt her
Total lies, however, I was guilty due to the amount of txt messages I sent her. However, none of the above allegations were challenged. If I return to court can I raise these issues as lies now as no proof of them or am I just stupid for pleading guilty and not having these allegations challenged at the time.
Is there anything I can do to get away from these allegations ?
I am so bad I have:-
1. taken her to Euro Disney this year so she could be there with the kids when I took them which cost £4.5K
2. Paid for her hotel to take kids away for couple of days
3. Lent her £200 when she was skint
If I am so bad and dangerous why do I have my kids every single weekend without fail while she has whole weekend to herself.
Jo, Thank you for being so understanding and realising I am not a bad person.
Just so you understand a little about me.
I have worked all over the world (US, Russia, South Africa, All over Europe) for Shell International earning circa £80k per year. Was retired on partial ill-health grounds and recieve substantial pension, have also built up a substantial property portfolio. I am 46 years of age and retired....however, I'm bit bored now and looking for new job, have already turned down 3 which didn't meet my criteria.
Thought I'd tell you this so you know a little about me.
I know I pleaded guilty but is there anything I can do about the false allegations when I go back to court about the building better relationships, or as I am guessing 'what is done is done' ?
Yet again you have been fantastic. Many many thanks and have a good evening tonight whatever you are doing.
I will always use you for further enquiries and was delighted that again
you were the one who answered my question.
I have found out that the alternative to the 'BUILDING BETTER RELATIONSHIPS PROGRAMME' ' is a course called 'DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PERPETRATOR PROGRAMME'
Could you kindly advice which of these 2 courses is the most incriminating as I don't want to move from one course to another one which is considered to be for more violent perpetrators.
So the later of the 2 courses is more severe and for more serious offenders ?
I think I will just do the BBR course to be safe.
Sorry Jo, I don't understand what you mean by more intense ?
HAPPY NEW YEAR.
I will not be able to attend the Building Better Relationships course if I don't agree to:-
1. sign the 'Statement of Understanding'
2. refuse to commit to the 'Conditions of Success'.
Out of principle I may not agree to the 2 points above.
Could you please advise what the possible consequences of not agreeing to the 2 points above ? Could I have to return to court and get a custodial sentence ?
When I have to go back to court as I am:-
1. not suitable for the building better relationships (BBR) course due to mental illness
2. I refuse to do the course as I have not done any of the things that the BBR course states that BBR is suitable, these being:-
With respect to point 4 above I have probably been assessed as medium to high risk due to total lies in the witness statement which included:-
During the court hearing related to me not wanting to carry out the BBR part of my community order , will there be a chance to explain reasons why I refuse to do the course, that being because I have not done any of the things that the BBR course is applicable as the course was probably only suggested due to false allegations in the witness statement.
I am trying to bring these false allegations to the magistrates attention, will there be a possibility of doing this ?
Would it be a very risky strategy to totally refuse to attend the course out of principle as I don't believe it is relevant to me ?
As I may go back to court to stop the attendance of the BBR programme due to a mental, does the medical letter have to be off a psychiatrist or could my GP write the letter to present to the court. All the letter will be saying is 'I have a diagnosis of bipolar disorder type 2 and that this condition is classed as a serious illness.
Will the GP let you have that letter? They will not routinely do that
Why won't my GP be able to provide a letter indicating my diagnosis and why don't they routinely provide such letters ?
Just so I am clear. If I totally refuse to to do the building better relationships programme out of principle as I have only been put on this programme due to false allegations in the victims statement, do you think I will get a custodial sentance ?
Also, so I am clear, when I go back to court due to refusing to to do the building better relationships programme out of principle, will I be able to state the reasons why I am refusing to do the course...i.e. false allegations in the victims statement ?
Thank you so much for your help.
but can I state the reasons why i will not comply with the order, that being totally false allegations in the victims statement even though I pleaded guilty. I was guilty but not of the false allegations ?