Hello my name is ***** ***** I will help you with this.
Have you charged it back on your credit card at all?
Oh I see. Just to be clear, do you have the details of the seller at all?
OK - how did you pay for the van?
Ah. In reality you may have lost the money.
All you can do is report this to the Police. They can investigate the matter and prosecute where necessary.
I could advise how to issue proceedings but that would be pointless as you have to pay Court fees and no way to enforce.
But report it to the Police - that is all you can do.
I am sorry if this is not the answer you want and certainly not the one I want to give you, but I have a duty to be honest.Can I clarify anything for you about this today please?
It is a criminal matter. Dont be fobbed off. This is fraud.
Does that clarify?
I am sorry its not better news. But sadly unless you know where this person is even if you did take them to Court it wouldnt be valid.
In any event if the seller didnt have any money or assets you have a paper Judgment and thats it.
I am sorry if its not the answer you want and certainly not the one I want to give you, but I have a duty to be honest.
Can I clarify anything for you about this today please?
Indeed. I will outline the process then for you to claim the money back.
You need to write and set out your losses and request a refund within 14 days or say you will go to Court within 14 days. You should make sure you send this signed delivery and keep a copy.
If they do not refund you then you can issue proceedings in the County Court. You can either do this online at: www.moneyclaim.gov.uk or by completing form N1 http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/hmctsformfinder/n1-eng.pdf and take it to your local County Court.
The Court will then issue a claim which a copy will be sent to the Defendant who will have a limited time to defend it, if not you can enter Judgment and enforce.
If the claim is for £10,000 or less it will be a small claim so you will not need legal representation. Over this value you would need representation for trial.
I agree. Thats why you should issue proceedings.
You didnt need to pay for something which is NOT yours.
That is why you can claim it back
I agree, its so unfair.
Yes there is a Court fee to pay. They are listed here:
This gets Judgment. you only get paid if the person you sue has any money
You could, that is always a risk. Sadly there is no way of knowing if he has any money before you sue.
I am sorry. Can I clarify anything else?
The bailiffs you paid - possible but unlikely. In reality you have probably lost the money
I understand. You can also issue proceedings against the bailiffs because you now own the van.
You should not pay for someone else's parking tickets
You can try, but you may be throwing good money after bad.
But you may also wish to draw a line under this stress.
I am sorry its not better news.
I agree. But sadly you need the persons details. I still think the Police can investigate this for you.
its not a civil matter, it is FRAUD. If they refuse to investigate then ask to see the Chief Constable and say you are NOT going to leave until they do.
That will get action. Does that clarify?
Really the name and address. But the Police should be investigating.
They can trace the previous owner etc.
Ok. The Police should investigate, but this is ALL you can do.
I have already said it is fraud. Therefore you need to complain to the Police.
I said at 10.56 on 31/10 that it was fraud.
You need to ask to speak to the Chief Constable. Insist this is fraud. Do not be fobbed off
No but can speak to the most senior officer there.
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There is nothing else. No, the council won't return the money. I am sorry.