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I am a female aged 40 with lower back pain on the left hand

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I am a female aged 40 with lower back pain on the left hand side for over 2 years. I had an ultrasound in December which showed two small lumps on my liver but my bloods were clear. My specialist told me he wasn't worried as my bloods were clear, however I had a nuclear scan aboput six weeks ago from which I haven't had any results and I have just received an appointment for a EUS scan in four weeks time.
Submitted: 1 year ago.
Category: Medical
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
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Expert:  Dr. D. Love replied 1 year ago.

Hello from JustAnswer.

I assume that you mean a nuclear scan of the liver, correct?

What was the reason for the nuclear scan?

It is not typical for a liver nuclear scan to be done for left lower back pain. Are you having other symptoms?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
No, I had a small amount of weight loss at the beginning of the year but that has now stabilised.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
the two small spots that were found on my liver in December. My specialist did mention gall stones but would they use an EUS for that?
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
hello, are you still there?
Expert:  Dr. D. Love replied 1 year ago.

Yes, I am still her, but it takes some time to type a complete answer.

Yes, they would, although more because of gallstones that have Carly Parker Tit Staringassed into and may be stuck in the bile duct.

There are a couple of common possible reasons for getting an EUS in this situation. A gallstone that may be in the bile duct is one of the reasons. If there was a concern about gallstones in the gallbladder, then a standard ultrasound would be able to see them well and an EUS would not be necessary. But since an EUS was recommended, the issue would be a gallstone may be in the bile duct

It is also possible that there could be a filling defect that is worrisome for a lump that is located deep within the liver,, but there are only a few locations within the liver that an EUS can see significantly better than a standard ultrasound.

There also may be a suggestion that there may be a lump around the bile duct that is squeezing the bile duct, and this area can be seen better by EUS than with a standard ultrasound.In this location, it would not be any lump within the liver, but possibly within the pancreas or the soft tssue between the liver and pancreas.

Since he mentioned a gallstone, the first scenario is most likely.

If I can provide any further information, please let me know.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
If it was anything serious would they let me wait another month for the Eus? Why have they sent me for this without giving me the results of the nuclear scan?
Expert:  Dr. D. Love replied 1 year ago.

Typically no, they would evaluate a serious problem more urgently.

I cannot say why your doctor did not communicate the result.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Do you think tha the rib pain is related to my pancrea then. It sometimes feels better when I sit forward but not when I lie down. It's a strange sensation as though something is folding over inside
Expert:  Dr. D. Love replied 1 year ago.

What rib pain?

You only mentioned low back pain, and then weight when I asked about any other symptoms.

Could you describe the rib pain in more detail? Location? Exacerbated by breathing? Is it tender when you press on the rib?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
The lower back pain is located just under my left rib cage. Not really tender to the touch and does not change with breathing. It feels like something is folding over inside difficult to explain really
Expert:  Dr. D. Love replied 1 year ago.

If the pain in the back is at the level of the ribs, it would typically not be considered low back pain. However, back pain in the location you describe could be related to any of the conditions noted above, not just the pancreas.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Am I worrying for nothing
Expert:  Dr. D. Love replied 1 year ago.

It is impossible to say without having the report. Statistically, it is more likely not something to worry about, but it cannot be said with certainty.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Would i be able to get the nuclear results if I phoned up.
Expert:  Dr. D. Love replied 1 year ago.

It usually takes more than a phone call, because they cannot verify that it is you over the phone.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Would any of the above conditions show any other problems. If I had cancer would it not show up in my bloods?
Expert:  Dr. D. Love replied 1 year ago.

Frequently not, and the answer assumed that the tests were still normal, as you stated in your question.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I thought that most cancers showed up in some form in the blood stream?
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Sorry I know I am going on but the rib pain is constant is this normal for any of the above
Expert:  Dr. D. Love replied 1 year ago.

Ultimately, yes, if left untreated, but most cancers do not cause any abnormal blood tests in the early phases of the cancer. Most screening tests for cancer are not blood tests. We do not decide to skip a cancer screening test, such as a mammogram or colonoscopy, because the blood tests are all normal.

Certain cancers can be far advanced before blood tests are affected.

Any of the conditions can cause constant pain. Of course, back problems also can cause constant pain, and would be the most common cause of constant back pain.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
One final question, if the big C was involved would it have not caused other problems within the two years I have been suffering with the back pain?
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Or is it possible that the back pain may not be connected at all.
Expert:  Dr. D. Love replied 1 year ago.

If cancer is the cause of the back pain and whatever was seen on the nuclear scan, then, yes, it would likely have started causing other symptoms in the interim, but it cannot be said that it wold always be true.

As I said above, back problems would be the most common cause of constant back pain, and yes, that would not be connected to anything that would have been seen on the nuclear scan.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Would the original ultrasound which found the spots on my liver of been able to pick up problems with my Gallbladder or Pancreas?
Expert:  Dr. D. Love replied 1 year ago.

Sometimes yes, sometimes no. If the standard ultrasound could detect everything that may be seen by a nuclear scan or an EUS, there would never be a reason to perform either a nuclear scan or an EUS.

There are times when all three modalities may see the problem, but each test also may see things not seen by the others.