The main question I was trying to answer is whether it is worth waiting for the expected new models and buying an refurbished or used older model in the meantime or buying one such as you gave above at around £400 ? Bearing in mind that the release of new models will lower the price of the existing model. The real question is when the new models are expected ?
Thank you, XXXXX XXXXX made my decision, the model you recomended I did not imediately recognise but then realised it was an old version of one of the Tivo models, recording on HDD and dumping to external HDD not playing and writing DVD discs, as I required. I have purchased a Blue ray / DVD HDD machine which does write to DVD discs and Blue ray discs and can play all those I have recorded over the nine years of using my DMR-E85H.