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Hi I am living abroad but working in the uk, and was told

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Hi
I am living abroad but working in the uk, and was told i might be able not to pay full income tax on what i earn as i only work here for about 8-9 months of the year, do you have any information on this which might help make it clearer to me or even if this is right
many thanks
m wilcox
Submitted: 2 years ago.
Category: Tax
Expert:  bigduckontax replied 2 years ago.
Hello, I'm Keith and happy to help you with your question.

Please advise if you are a UK citizen?
Customer: replied 2 years ago.

yes i am

Expert:  bigduckontax replied 2 years ago.
In general terms you are liable to UK tax on your earnings. To avoid tax you may not spend more than 91 days in the UK per annum. Do you by any chance work on oil or gas rigs? If you left the UK permanently to live abroad did you complete a P85? If not, you should do so.
Customer: replied 2 years ago.

I left the uk about 8 years ago and at the time did not know about letting the tax office know we were leaving. and i have left the uk permanently,


I work as a live in carer where by i work 8 weeks here and go home for 4 weeks then back again for another 8 weeks and so on

Expert:  bigduckontax replied 2 years ago.
I am sure that HMRC will regard you as domiciled and resident in the UK. You will almost certainly be liable to UK tax on your earnings. Have you been making annual self assessment returns?
Customer: replied 2 years ago.

I do not have a uk address and i do pay uk tax, but i do not make annual self assessment tax returns as i work for a company and not my self

Expert:  bigduckontax replied 2 years ago.
If you have income upon which you have not been taxed then it is your responsibility to self assess. Self assessment to everybody, employed, self employed, not employed, retired etc. You cannot just say that HMRC did not send you a form. If you fail to self assess you may be subject to penalties. Your company who, with the best will in the world, can only deduct tax on PAYE on data supplied by HMRC and if that data is wrong then you could be in difficulties.
Customer: replied 2 years ago.

so what should the next step be, and could i be paying less tax at the end of it

Expert:  bigduckontax replied 2 years ago.
I very much doubt it, you spend too much time in the UK each year. HMRC might, and I only say might, allow you to be taxed on the proportion of time you spend in the UK per annum, but you are well over the time limit and with the best will in the world I don't think they will allow it..
Customer: replied 2 years ago.

so do i need to do a self assesment tax return even though i am an employee

Expert:  bigduckontax replied 2 years ago.
Not necessarily, a large proportion of the population never have to, but if you have income which has not been taxed then you must self assess. The PAYE system was designed in the 40s to make wherever possible employees tax neutral at the year end. These days small discrepancies are merely carried forward to the next tax year.
Customer: replied 2 years ago.

I pay tax on all that i earn, but would i be able to claim a tax rebate at any time, and also is there anything that a expat could claim for?

Expert:  bigduckontax replied 2 years ago.
You will only pay tax as per PAYE and if your tax code is incorrect not enough or too much tax will be deducted. What about investment income?

The best money spinner on the tax deductible front in the UK is private pension schemes. You may invest up to 100% of your salary in these up to a limit of 50K this tax year, 40K next. If you work very quickly you could just get this year in, but you have but 3 days from Monday. These top slice your income at the highest levels of tax. Other than those the only really viable deductions are subscriptions to professional institutes, but they are small beer.
Customer: replied 2 years ago.

Is there a form which i can fill in to find out if i might be allowed to pay tax on the time i am here,

Expert:  bigduckontax replied 2 years ago.
The P85 which you didn't complete when you left the UK starts that process. You can don load one from the net.
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