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# We are a small Consitutional club and we are struggling to

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We are a small Consitutional club and we are struggling to understand how VAT is calculated. I understand that we pay 20% vat on purchases say from our brewery. We then sell on to our members.
If we purchase £100 worth of drinks and pay £20 vat. how much vat must we pay when we sell all that stock for £250?
Submitted: 3 years ago.
Category: Tax
Expert:  taxadvisor.uk replied 3 years ago.
Hello and welcome to the site. Thank you for your question.

You have purchased stock for £100 and you pay £20 VAT on it being 20% of £100.

If you sell that stock for £250, it depends whether the price is ex VAT or incl VAT.

So I will give you both figures ...
If your stock is sold for £250 + VAT then the VAT is £50 being 20% of £250.
If the £250 value is inclusive of VAT then your VAT is
250 x (20/120) = £41.67 and your ex VAT price is (250.00-41.67) = £208.33
VAT at 20% on £208.33 is £41.67.

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Customer: replied 3 years ago.

Assume your explanation No.2 we sell inclusive of Vat.

In my world, the total amount of VAT on £100's worth of goods is :-

£20 input tax we paid to the supplier,

£41.67 tax paid by the end user,

Total £61.67

Am I right looking at it like this. I thought the Vat was paid by the end user. This is why I am confused. Also VAT if my interretaion is correct is 61.67% not 20%.

Expert:  taxadvisor.uk replied 3 years ago.

As you are a trader and not the end user (consumer), you recover VAT paid on your purchases and this is not passed to the end user as such.

What the end user is paying is VAT on your sales figure that are based on a purchase price excluding the VAT. The VAT man gets £41.67 (output tax) in the end, per your example and not £61.67 because you have reclaimed £20 as input tax..

VAT rate is 20% .. and it is a fixed percentage based on variable price..

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Expert:  taxadvisor.uk replied 3 years ago.
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