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Some interesting points, Sam. Taking your queries in turn because I have had to charge VAT, but there is no reason why I can't do it as an individual.
One big difference is that my self employed work is charged at a negotiated rate, whereas for this work I am told what the rate is when I am offered the 3 /4 year contract and that is fixed for the period unless the organisation concerned does increase its pay per day for everyone.
The two organisations where this is an issue expect me to charge them at the same time as I charge for expenses. They do not pay by payroll. A third organisation expects me to claim the daily fee on their expenses claim sheet. No tax or NI is deducted from this work (I am over the NI rate in terms of age)
Thanks, ***** ***** think I need to think about this. The whole thing really is that by having to include VAT, with one of the employers I receive less than the agreed rate. The other employer recognises this and allows me to charge VAT as an extra cost that they bear. If I do this with the first of these two they will stop giving me so much work so I lose out another way. I will certainly try the site you have pointed me to, but this will have to be tomorrow because I'm now off to the station to pick my wife up and we are then out for the evening.
I suppose the real rogue is the employer that will not allow me to claim VAT as an extra, but they have too many budgetary issues to be able to afford it.
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I thought you were going to make one or two additional comments from the words in your last paragraph. I am interested in your view (which i put in a follow up yesterday) oj the HMRC comment to someone that the fees from a statutory office can never be regarded as business activities.
I want to finish this today so I can decide if and how to approach the VAT office on Monday.