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I am trying to clarify how VAT works - we are setting up a

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I am trying to clarify how VAT works - we are setting up a business and understand that VAT becomes payable when turnover is £83,000. When the VAT is calculated is it on the amount of turnover LESS allowable deductibles?
Submitted: 1 year ago.
Category: Tax
Expert:  TonyTax replied 1 year ago.

Hi.

Take a look here for information on VAT.

Assuming you will be standard rated if and when you register for VAT, you will charge your customers VAT at 20% on the value of the invoice assuming the service or good you sell is standard rated for VAT. So, if you sell something for £100.00, you will charge output VAT (A) of £20.00 on top so the customer will pay £120.00. When you pay a supplier, you will be charged input VAT (B) at 20% assuming the good or service sold to you is standard rated for VAT.

At the end of your VAT quarter, you will complete and submit a VAT return. If your output VAT (A) is a larger figure than your input VAT (B), you will pay the difference to HMRC. If your input VAT is a larger figure than your output VAT (B), you will receive a VAT refund. In net terms, you pay no VAT as A is offset against B.

I hope this heps but let me know if you have any furtehr questions.

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Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Do the things offset by input VAT (B) include those items classed as tax deductibles on the HRMC website ie. accommodation charges, etc.?
Expert:  TonyTax replied 1 year ago.

What type of business are you in?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
We are setting up a tuition centre where we hope to employ some tutors and I'm not sure whether what are classed as tax deductibles on HMRC are deductibles on the VAT to be paid.
Expert:  TonyTax replied 1 year ago.

Any exepnses you incur in connection with the business should be allowable expenses which are offset against your business income. If you are not VAT registered, you would claim the VAT inclusive expense, let's say £120.00. If you are VAT registered, you would claim the net of VAT expense, £100.00, as you will effectively be recaliming the £20.00 VAT.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
those are the items indicated on HMRC website, such as wages, accommodation etc? Sorry to sound so ditzy but think I've gone into a little bit of panic!
Expert:  TonyTax replied 1 year ago.

Wages dont' have VAT added.

You are confusing two different animals, expenses and VAT. VAT is charged on the value of the service a business provides and on expenses it pays. Those VAT charges are netted off against one another. The net expense is claimed against your income in your accounts.

You ought to have an accountant look at the business you intend to operatae in detail. If you don't pay much VAT on your purchases, then it probably won't be worth regsitering for VAT voluntarily until you have to register based on your turnover as you might have to charge VAT on the fees you charge which would affect your competitiveness.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Thanks for your help - I get the difference now between the two animals :-)
Expert:  TonyTax replied 1 year ago.

That's good.

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