Hello, yes ill try.
German national, studying in the uk, foreign licence plate car which is fully insured in germany and the insurance work over here as well.
Car has been seized / towed today because the officer told me im an uk resident, which im not because there is an exemption for students. I recieved a fine of 200 gbp and 6 points. Should i appeal their decision in court? Is there a general paper i can try to get that i can show police officers whenever they stop me ?
I have been renting a place for about 3 years now, but im not longer in the uk than about 2-4 months. The car is here for about a month now, this is the first time we brought a car over here.
Well, that one officer accused me of driving without insurance and without having the vehicle registered in the uk - even though all the other officers that have stopped me before have checked everything and led me to believe that everything was alright, which it is. The insurance in germany works different than in the uk, and applies to its citizens differently. Thats what they have no grasp of i suppose, even though he heavily pointed out that his colleagues had no idea what they were talking about (about 20 officers have been standing together, plus the head of the department once, and have said its alright for me to drive it here) and that one guy said he knows the law better than them apparently
The thing here is, i use the car in germany the majority of the time, where it is registered and insured, and in the uk during my studies (the car has only been here for 1 month).
If i register and insure the car over here in the UK, i need to re register it in germany again when im going back, and thats not how its supposed to work is it? (btw. the car is a company car and is fully insured - also here in the uk)
When he approached me at the car window, he didnt first state why he stopped me, but straight up asked me questions - and i was under the impression (from the last times i was stopped and questioned and everything turned out fine) that its just another regular control. But when i said that i have had that place for about 3 years now, i was automatically a uk resident. (even though the government website states that theres an exemption when im a student) I told him, just after that that when a UK Police officer asks me where i live he wants to know my uk adress, not my actual german one. I stated afterwards that im a german citizen and my primary adress is in germany, but i reside at the prior given adress during my studies in the uk. He wouldnt take it and said "you are telling me that AFTER i have asked you where you live and AFTER i have told you what im accusing you of, so i have to assume this is a straight up lie. I then continued to try explaining to him why i didnt say it in the first place, e.g. If im in another country, and a police officer stops me, and asks me where i LIVE (important to notice he didnt ask where i was FROM, that wouldve been more clarifying but then again, my licence plate gave that away) im going to tell him the adress i use in "his" country obviously, because thats something he can work with better than a foreign adress, and if requested or required, i would give away my adress in my home country to clarifiy that i live there.
And yes, i have recieved a fixed penalty fine, and when i find enough reasons to challenge that, i will. What costs are involved there?
He explicitly said that its not about the licence though, i have an EU licence and it doesnt matter which one i have. He said when someone is visiting the country, its okay to drive the car, but im an UK resident (which im 100% sure im not since im a student etc) so for me to drive the car i have to register it here. I have many friends with more exotic cars than mine, they get stopped almost every 3 days or so, show them insurance papers and its good, even though they "give away" their uk adress where they already reside for longer than a couple of years.
Why is this closed? My Question hasn't been answered.