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Well there is no humping yet and his "bits" feel totally smooth and as they should be (actually I think he thinks he's just had a free nut-rub!!!) I also have a 1 year old unneutered male who is showing no signs of any attraction to the older male so I wouldn't think it is the way he smells or presumably he'd be reacting that way too. Re the top dog theory, the 4.5 year old doing all the whining is already the top dog so there isn't really any need for him to alter his behaviour. The dog doing all the flirting etc had an epileptic fit on Sunday afternoon (it is now Tuesday afternoon as I write this). This behaviour started the day AFTER the fit so I don't know if this has any baring on the possibilities? He has had fits before but never exhibited this behaviour
Ive obviously not explained that very well. The younger dog (Rain) has the seizures and has done so from a week after his booster at 12 months of age :(The younger dog is doing all the flirting.
The older dog (Axl) is not interested in the advances of the younger dog at all and when Rain pushes his advances further, Axl turns round and tells him to pack it in. Axl was diagnosed with hypothyroidism age 5 - he's now 7.5 years old and very stable as a rule
Currently everything appears normal. The "attention" being paid was about a couple of hours yesterday and again today - both times commencing on our walk and continuing throughout the duration of the walk (about 1 hour) and for a further hour on our return.
At 4.5 years old, Rain is already mature Id say and he is the pack leader anyway so I wouldn't think that is something he needs to assert unless the addition of our third dog who is now 1 is upsetting the balance somewhat.
Rain approaches Axl and licks the back of his neck and kind of chatters and drools a bit as you'd expect them to do with a female. He whines and cries and wants to touch him and lick him and kind of dances about around him as if trying to tease him - as you would expect a male to do to try to win over a female.
If he tries to muscle in and get his head over Axl's shoulders/neck, Axl turns round and barks at him to stop and wont entertain it at all.
All the while, Chi, the 1 year old, is completely oblivious to the whole thing
Rain is not on medication for his seizures as they are very infrequent. Axl has been on Soloxine for 2 years and is doing magnificently well on it - even being able to compete at agility competitions.
I think it sounds like a whole pack dynamic change issue then. I will keep an eye on Axl's testicles as you say just to be on the safe side and if it continues for any length of time, Ill have him to the vet for some bloods.
~thank you for your help
You're welcome, you have put my mind at rest and at the same time, given me a consideration to bare in mind, just in case. Would do anything for my boys and like to think I don't miss a trick ;)
Many thanks Rebecca