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How many of the lines did you use please?
How can I continue with you if I have to break off here
You can come back to the question at any time.
Was it just a verse of chorus?
Did you get permission first?
It was lines of a song. I did not get permission. I explained that I tried to reach Tom Waits on the internet.
You just wonder if its ok to use this?
As a %, how much of the work have you used?
That is what I am asking. I thought that trying might be enough when it seemed that I was not going to be able to make contact with Tom Waits
Not sure - one verse of a song. I can find out by looking at the words on the cd
And you credited the work?
I used 8 of the 13 lines and credited Tom Waits
5 out 12 l ines printed on the cd pamphlet
Ok. Really you should have sought permission and waited for confirmation as you know.
But in reality as long as you didnt use most of the work and you have credited it, then that should not be an issue.
email: *****@******.*** as I am not sure I gave it before
It is only where you have used significant portions of work or not credited it, would that be an issue
But in this instance you have used some and credited the work
So I think based on you have said, it should be ok
Can I clarify anything for you about this today please?
In US law too?
You have posted this in UK law. So I have answered it as such here.
If they are in the USA and the infringement occurred here it would need to be litigated in the UK
But the book is available through amazon and so can be obtained in usa and worldwide - oh, I see you have answered this question.
Can I clarify anything else for you?
Inter net procedures - How can I reach these pages once we finish
Once you rate the format changes of this so you can come back to it at any time.
Do you mean to the record of our chat or to the site - I mean the record of it one the site
The record of our chat I am referring to yes
I can have it removed (our chat discussion) after you rate if that is what you mean?
Do I click Save and exit and then Rate below and Finish afterwards.
If you click rate first. Then once its rated it will be saved.
Then if you want it removed, tell me now, so once you rate I can get that done
Just to point out again that I did try to contact Tom Waits through sites with his name and finally through Facebook. The problem was not being able to contact him.
When that had failed I could not see how I could get permission.
You did not say that yesterday. You said that I should be all right! Not sure now what you intended.
I am presuming that it is not a matter of criminal law but a case where one might be sued for damages. The book is my first published work, self-published at that and I, not the publisher, am responsible for such issues if they occur, I believe. It is a memoir of growing up and not likely to have a huge sale. I would be glad to get my costs back from sales but who knows? A guilty party in such a case would be facing what kind of damages. Approx how much? On what does the sum depend.
Will I now be faced with another bill?
My praise for the last opinion was perhaps because you said it might be all right or words to that effect. I turns out that was not the full picture. I had not realised until today that I ought to have continued to find the musician Tom Waits. What if I cannot, or he does not answer?
do you mean all of the profit?
I see, thanks. I am clear on this point now. Thankyou.
Another point arising since yesterday. The title Good Old World is the title of his song and of my book so my book looks derivative from his song. He was there first.
Yesterday I said that the phrase could not be original as there is a pattern in the English language which produces Good Old Boy. Good Old Soul and therefore Good Old World seem to be produced by the same pattern. If so I would expect to find it elsewhere, not just from Waits. I cannot.
I have just tried a Shakespeare concordance and not found this phrase. If Shakespeare didn't use it so then maybe it is original, coined by Waits.
Or perhaps to put it another way is it damaging to the first user if the title of a book is the same as the title of someone's song!
Not everyone, not even Shakespeare. Just me. As far as I know.
But there are books with the same title. Not derivative at all. There is a connection between his song and my book - a liked the song and it came to mind, from the words of the song.
My point was that not everyone was copying the phrase as far as I know.
I started yesterday asking about using a quotation with the Good Old World phrase in it to asking about the title of the book which is the same for Waits' song and my book and therefore I must have assimilated it.
There is a different point here from the original. However, I shall pursue Tom Waits further if I can find out where to start.
many thanks from vernon hall
I have realised that the legal point might be the fact that I have used the name of a song by a well-known musician as the name of my book.
Getting permission for the quotation of lines in the book and not making contact was my earlier worry and could be solved by making contact and is not now my worry.
Can you help with this?
what about a challenge saying that I have used the success of the song to my own a financial advantage by calling the book after it?
Not sure what you mean, Alex.
Good Old World is the name of the song and Good Old World is the name of my book.
They are not confusingly similar. The are exactly the same.
The song has been around for several years. my book is just published.
Is it potentially actionable to publish a book with the same title as a successful song?
Could I be accused of riding on the back of another's success?
(Did you already receive this? It was open on my screen and I wondered if it had been sent)
Thankyou. Not sure what you mean, though.
If you have any other ideas please let me know.
Many thanks for your help.