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I parked my car in a wrong place in Newcastle upon Tyne, and

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I parked my car in a wrong place in Newcastle upon Tyne, and I received notice of a fine from Newcastle City Council. Their first demand was for £70.
When I had previously got such a fine, Newcastle City Council initially demanded £35, to be paid within 2 weeks. If not paid, then £70 was due.
So this time they demanded £70 straight away.
Is this according to the rules ?
Or is the Council trying to get an extra £35 from me, against the rules ?
Mike Waller
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Did you pay within 14 days of issue?
Customer: replied 3 years ago.

Dear Jo

Thank you for your reply.

Date of contravention = 9 May 2014

Date Council sent the first letter - a demand for £70 = 13 June 2014

Date I sent cheque for £35 = 12 Aug 2014

Date this £35 charged to my bank account = 26 Aug 2014

Mike Waller

Are you just querying the amount of the charge? Are they saying that the penalty was never £35?
Customer: replied 3 years ago.

Yes, I am just querying the amount of the charge.

For an earlier contravention they charged £35 initially.

For this contravention they charged £70 initially.

Why this change ?


Dear Jo

I cannot see your answer of 9:45am.
Please reply.

What I need to know is did you pay within 14 days of issue?
Surely you did not? Or even within 14 days of the notice of rejections?
Customer: replied 3 years ago.

Q - What I need to know is did you pay within 14 days of issue?

Answer - No

Q - Or even within 14 days of the notice of rejections?

Answer - No

But my point is :

They demanded £70, when the usual practice is to demand £35 .

Why ?


Because you didn't pay within 14 days.
Usually fines are £70 or thereabouts reduced by 50% if you pay within 14 days.
If you appeal then you do normally get another 14 days from the date of rejection but you didn't pay within that time period either.
Then the amounts revise to the full sum.
Can I clarify anything for you?
Customer: replied 3 years ago.

Thanks, ***** ***** fine.


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Customer: replied 3 years ago.

Thanks for your help.

I read the first message ( attached to my car, from the Traffic Warden ) and this demanded £35.

So then I realised that I had no legal case against them, and I sent a cheque for what they were asking.


Mike Waller

Yes, the revision is usually buried away in the small print.
I have heard anecdotal evidence that they will sometimes accept the reduced amount outside of time but never seen it myself.