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I parked in the car park located under my friends

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Hello, I parked in the car park located under my friends apartment in London. I parked in her space and she drove us to the airport. She is entitled to 1 visitor permit however her landlord had not yet sorted it. There was a sign clearly displayed stating the penalty should someone park there without a valid permit however I thought this would be ok as I was allowed by the tennant to park in her space. The car park is always half empty and as I was parked in her space I was not obstructing anyone who had a permit to park there. I was issued with 4 tickets over the time I was away totalling £400 (£240 if paid within 14 days). I feel this is extortionate and completely unfair considering the circumstances. Do I have any grounds to appeal to just pay for 1 charge rather than 4? Your help will be much appreciated.

Also I would like to add that I am £15k in debt and currently have no job so I can not afford these fines. Would that be considered to appeal for a reduction or at the very least a payment plan if all else fails?

Submitted: 2 years ago.
Category: Law
Expert:  Ash replied 2 years ago.
Hello my name is ***** ***** is Alex and I will help you with this,
Is this a private firm who has issued these?
Customer: replied 2 years ago.

Yes UKPC is a private firm. I have since found out that it is UKPC who won't provide the visitor permit because the previous tenants did not return it and so they won't issue another one.

Regardless, I was in my friends parking space so hoping that can account for something?

My other friend also parked there and got the same fines because we didn't have a visitor pass. Can that be used for an appeal at all?

Expert:  Ash replied 2 years ago.
How much is being claimed?
Customer: replied 2 years ago.
I have 4 tickets. My friend has 4 tickets. They are £60 per ticket but that soon goes up to £100. This is a very slow way to converse. I couldn't afford to pay to speak with you live. I have also had some free advice from legal beagles website was jut hoping this way would be quicker but it seems it is slower
Expert:  Ash replied 2 years ago.
You dont have to pay ANY ticket. They are from a private company and therefore not binding in law. They would have to establish if there was a contract, whether you intended to form a legal relationsip, has there been a breach and if there is a loss.
Bearing in mind I am sure they offer free parking anyway, I cant see what their loss is.
In short the ticket is not enforceable.
Can I clarify anything for you about this today please?
Expert:  Ash replied 2 years ago.
I am just following up to see if there is anything else I can help with?
If you have not done so already might I ask you to rate my answer before you go today please, the button should be at the bottom of the screen.
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Customer: replied 2 years ago.
Hi Alex,
What I don't understand is if they aren't enforceable then how do they act as a deterrent to stop people parking without a permit?
Expert:  Ash replied 2 years ago.
Its current being decided by the Supreme Court. The current view it can't be enforced.
Private companies just try it on.
Does that help Kelly?