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What other tests have been done?
stool test for H pylori - negative
Ultra sound scan of abdo and kidneys - negative
Urine tests - negative
Where exactly is the pain in upper abdomen?
Right, left or mid line?
Has now been referred for endoscopy
He describes it as going across
You mean it gets referred to the back?
No, around the front
He gets the pain always after eating something?
That is , all around the front, it does not move across
I am sorry for all this info but i need it for best help.
No, but eating can sometimes relieve it
ok i see.
Does he feel the pain when he gets up in the morning and it gets better after eating something?
Yes he feels it in the morning and feels better half an hour after eating
Any pain on pressing the abdomen?
Blood tests done for pancreas?
Has he been checked for H Pylori infection?
Blood tests have been done - not sure what they tested for however
Yes H Pylori test came back negative
Thanks a lot for your input.
I am really sorry to hear about his illness and i can understand your level of stress for him.
Well as per symptoms this sounds like duodenal ulcer.
Duodenum is the part of intestine just after the stomach
Normally in ulcers pain aggravates after eating but in duodenal ulcers eating relieves the pain.
Would this show up with an endoscopy?
Most of the times H pylori is associated with it. A negative test for H Pylori sometime is not sufficient and direct endoscopic examination and biopsy from the area is required.
It does show up on endoscopy.
In that case a course of combination antibiotics is required.
There are other causes like pancreas or gall bladder related diseases which should be checked for by a CT scan but the first step should be endoscopy.
What about the constant nausea? He has just been put on 30 mg Lansoprazole which I hope will help. He is avoiding fatty and citrusy type foods - makes no difference
Constant nausea can be a feature of ulcer.
Yes he should avoid spicy foods also. Is he?
Yes definitely. Isn't his current medication used in treatment of ulcers anyway?
Yes his current medications are for ulcer but sometime if they are not working, the next step is endoscopy and specially one should be checked for H pylori because duodenal ulcers are almost always associated with H pylori and antibiotics are required for its treatment.
Stress can play a role here too because ulcers gets aggravated by stress.
What else should I ensure is checked when he has his endoscopy?
You should ask them to check for duodenal ulcers specially.
He also says he is hungry all the time even just after finishing a meal. Is this consistent with duodenal ulcer?
and ask them for checking H Pylori if the gastro doc feels like.
Yes one can feel so with duodenal ulcers. There are many unusual symptoms with most of the diseases and we have to focus on main symptoms.
Does he get any diarrhea or constipation?
No, he says his bowel actions are daily and normal
Suppose if his endoscopy is ok then functional dyspepsia can be the cause.
I guess they have some suspicion of it and that might be the reason for starting him with Kolanticon.
but again treatment remains the same, specially H pylori again has to be treated.
What is functional dyspepsia?
Good thing is this that he is on right tract and getting investigated in a good way.
Functional dyspepsia is basically a problem in which there are symptoms of ulcers but no ulcer is found. The treatment is same.
We call it non ulcer dyspepsia also.
But we can label it after his endoscopy is negative.
I suppose that is my concern that everything is coming back negative. In the case that it does come back negative, will a CT scan be the next step or will there be enough to suggest non ulcer dyspepsia?
Yes CT scan will be the next step so that other causes can be ruled out.
But if CT is negative too then yes we can call it non ulcer dyspepsia.
Don't worry he will be fine.
What is the prognosis like for both conditions or is it too variable to say?
No the prognosis is excellent.
You just need to get the right diagnosis and things can go in right direction then.
If stress is a factor I suppose it is likely to flare up with exams
Well yes you are right.
But try to council him as much as you can.
Your support can make a difference.
Many thanks. I have been feeling like I am going a bit mad especially as some people including teachers, are suggesting it might be purely psychological. It has made me question whether he is making it up for attention, though to be fair, the GPs and consultant have not suggested this.
You are most welcome. Yes it can be psychological but how can we call someone's pain to be psychological until unless we have ruled out everything.
I suggest you to just relax and just support him.
This will make him feel better.
Thank you. I will do my best.
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Don't know if this link still open or if extra charge. Son is increasingly symptomatic - up until 3 am last night with discomfort/pain. A week last Friday spoke to GP who added cyclizine to the Lansoprazole, Kolanticon and Domperidone. Have dropped cyclizine as it made no difference. Saw gastroenterologist last week who will do endoscopy on 2-10-13. He is testing also for coeliac disease. Problem is I don't know how to help son manage symptoms for another week and a half. He is off school - can't envisage him going back on current meds as they are barely helping.
Many thanks for this. I will discuss with GP.
Would an anxiolytic be taken in conjunction with his other medication.? He has been on two PPIs (omeprazole and lansoprazole) and neither of them appear to have any effect.. Is that unusual? What would CT scan be to look for?
He is now alternating between a day or so of constipation and then when he manages to open his bowels ( he said that it was difficult to do) his stools were greenish and loose. Is this significant?
He seems to feel ravenously hungry - in the evening he just never seems to have had enough. Also have noticed that at night he gets very thirsty